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Post by Dr. Dixon Glory on May 3, 2012 1:12:21 GMT -5
I think in a fresh match John can win over Dan  !! |
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Post by Mikel Gould on May 3, 2012 4:51:10 GMT -5
I like it John, You will mix it up in what ever class you pull. It would be nice to see you in the heavies this year as well. It would be good for your arm. Look forward to seeing you on the weekend.
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Post by John Milne on May 3, 2012 5:56:44 GMT -5
Thank you Dixon but I've never even been close to him yet.
Thanks to you too Mike. As you know I think you're the man. I admire you and it's nice to see someone you look up to say good things about you.
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Post by Dr. Dixon Glory on May 3, 2012 10:05:06 GMT -5
Thank you Dixon but I've never even been close to him yet. John, have you ever pulled him , when you were fresh? One video I saw showed you pulling him after your war with Eric. Dixon |
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Post by Bilal Kreidieh on May 3, 2012 12:28:39 GMT -5
Thank you Dixon but I've never even been close to him yet. John, have you ever pulled him , when you were fresh? One video I saw showed you pulling him after your war with Eric. Dixon they pulled after Dan had pulled in the MGCs and John was just commentating...they pulled on the practice table. John even said he wanted to pull in straps...Dan still beat him fairly easily....not to take anything away from John, but Dan beat Eric and Conrad fairly easily too at the Easterns. |
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Post by Mikel Gould on May 3, 2012 13:45:38 GMT -5
1st of all Bilal If you read that post Dixon was asking John. And you will learn in time that the practise table has no bearing what so ever on tournement results. Dan has beat John in the past but they are close. John is very versitile and he will continualy change things up. John and Dan are a great match and it will not stay one sided. In time with experience you will learn to be able to see that kind of stuff.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2012 14:43:30 GMT -5
What Mike said X2. Practice smactice. Means nothing. People can get by on the start because people have to figure out the weakness and exploit it. I have seen it happen so many times. Dan is having some success, but I am sure as a fact he is not indestructible. The MGC was John and Dan playing and that is all.
Hell Jake pinned John there as well, do you really think he can do it in a tournament??? I know he cant, so at practice or afterpulling means squat. Usually when two guys are figuring each other out.
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Post by Bilal Kreidieh on May 3, 2012 20:02:51 GMT -5
I'm not sure why everyone keeps saying Dan is still green...he's beat almost everyone there is to beat in his weight class in under a year.
I highly respect John as a puller and a great dude, but from what I saw (maybe I don't have the eyes for it, I guess I'm a noob) it wasn't that hard for him to beat John, it was a fairly easy top roll. Again, if they had a war somewhere and I didn't see it, I could be wrong.
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Post by John Milne on May 3, 2012 21:10:47 GMT -5
Thank you Dixon but I've never even been close to him yet. John, have you ever pulled him , when you were fresh? One video I saw showed you pulling him after your war with Eric. Dixon Hi Dixon. No, we've never pulled fresh. I did have some very tough matches in Kingston (where I pulled Roussin first match). I also had much tougher matches that day because he was killing everyone and I don't have the ability to finish matches off quickly. Usually my matches take time for me to finish. I don't recall when both of our matches were at Nationals but the same applies. I had a good war with Greg Boyes and some other tough matches as well. I will say this - it made little difference in my opinion. Dan is better at his move and I have not solved it yet. I'm not making excuses at all, just stating that I was not fresh. I train to have endurance and to be tough deep into the tournament/supermatch. Dan is just better than me right now, simple as that. I will continue to try and find a way to win. |
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Post by Pierre Madison on May 3, 2012 21:14:32 GMT -5
good luck to all of the pullers who are gonna go to the provincial
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Post by John Milne on May 3, 2012 21:36:05 GMT -5
A couple of things Bilal. Yes, at MGC I was "just commentating" however I trained just days before the tournament and I'd been recovering from an injury which I sustained vs. Roussin. I was not healed from that yet nor was I at full strength. So regardless of what you think you saw, you do not know all the factors. Also, once you get over your own ego and efforts to "prove how strong you are" on a practice table you may get to another level. One day you may conduct recce (see footnote) on future possible opponents. I'm not sure if you will ever reach this level, I don't see it in you yet. Your continued exaggerations suggest you do not "highly respect" me as an armwrestler. However, I'm fine with that and I'm used to it, especially in Ontario. Regarding challenging myself ( the post to you which you did not reply). I've issued several challenges in the last few years. Let me bring you up to speed. Jeff Penney - Jeff was the favorite here but it was fairly close in voting. He was ranked higher and had/has a killer hook... which incidentally is where I like to go. I promised that I'd hook Mr. Penney and most everyone thought it would be the death of me. I came out on top 3-0. Bill Logsden - the best 198 in North America. I was supposed to get smashed in this match. I did not belong on the table with Bill according to many. I did lose the match but it went to the wire (3-2) with very questionable refereeing if I do say so. Bill later told Carnegie that I was his toughest supermatch to date. Do yourself a favor and check Bill's resume, it's very impressive Ryan Clark - was current US National Champion and had finished 4th in the world the year previous. The scene was Arm Wars and once again I was supposed to get smashed 6-0. I didn't belong on the big stage with such an accomplished athlete. This is the same man who ran through the MGC this year btw. I ended up winning 4-3, the footage will air on National TV this year, I hope you check it out. Mike Gould - Same. I was gonna get smashed. I did lose 3-0 as expected but most would say that I gave Mike 2 good matches, much to the surprise of many in the room and ones watching on video. Paul Maiden - The number 1 armwrestler in Great Britain. Milne, huge underdog takes it to the wire losing 4-2. This match made Eurosport as well being viewed my millions with great reviews on the match. I'm losing many but I'm f**k**g close to these guys. I'm not challenging bums here. Doug Allen - American who competed at MGC this year. It is set for Arm Wars Las Vegas later this year. I'm the underdog here as well, ask most anyone. Neil Pickup called me to ask me about this match, he knows I'm the underdog but knows how I love to push and challenge myself. Some other challenges I've issued went to Earl Wilson and Crazy George. Both of which turned me down. They have their own reasons and I'm not going to speculate, my only point is that I'm the HUGE underdog in both of these and most would not even give me 1% chance to win even one match. However once again I enjoy training scared. It's very easy to be diligent in your efforts if you know the other only option is embarrassment or injury. Footnote : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconnaissance |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2012 22:03:01 GMT -5
Now that's a resume!
Another thing that is deceptive about John is his practice table habits. 90% of practice pulls are intended or end up being ego driven. John uses the practice table to train himself AS WELL as his partner.
I ve had practices with John where I felt like the stronger man (as I am an ego driven puller)... Only to get schooled 2 weeks later in a tournament by him. I ve learnt more from John than any other puller. Many, many national lever pullers can take lessons from him. He does not get nearly the respect that he deserves in his province.
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Post by Steve Murray on May 4, 2012 0:32:17 GMT -5
wel said chris......couldn't agree more.
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Post by Bilal Kreidieh on May 4, 2012 1:55:18 GMT -5
A couple of things Bilal. Yes, at MGC I was "just commentating" however I trained just days before the tournament and I'd been recovering from an injury which I sustained vs. Roussin. I was not healed from that yet nor was I at full strength. So regardless of what you think you saw, you do not know all the factors. Also, once you get over your own ego and efforts to "prove how strong you are" on a practice table you may get to another level. One day you may conduct recce (see footnote) on future possible opponents. I'm not sure if you will ever reach this level, I don't see it in you yet. Your continued exaggerations suggest you do not "highly respect" me as an armwrestler. However, I'm fine with that and I'm used to it, especially in Ontario. Regarding challenging myself ( the post to you which you did not reply). I've issued several challenges in the last few years. Let me bring you up to speed. Jeff Penney - Jeff was the favorite here but it was fairly close in voting. He was ranked higher and had/has a killer hook... which incidentally is where I like to go. I promised that I'd hook Mr. Penney and most everyone thought it would be the death of me. I came out on top 3-0. Bill Logsden - the best 198 in North America. I was supposed to get smashed in this match. I did not belong on the table with Bill according to many. I did lose the match but it went to the wire (3-2) with very questionable refereeing if I do say so. Bill later told Carnegie that I was his toughest supermatch to date. Do yourself a favor and check Bill's resume, it's very impressive Ryan Clark - was current US National Champion and had finished 4th in the world the year previous. The scene was Arm Wars and once again I was supposed to get smashed 6-0. I didn't belong on the big stage with such an accomplished athlete. This is the same man who ran through the MGC this year btw. I ended up winning 4-3, the footage will air on National TV this year, I hope you check it out. Mike Gould - Same. I was gonna get smashed. I did lose 3-0 as expected but most would say that I gave Mike 2 good matches, much to the surprise of many in the room and ones watching on video. Paul Maiden - The number 1 armwrestler in Great Britain. Milne, huge underdog takes it to the wire losing 4-2. This match made Eurosport as well being viewed my millions with great reviews on the match. I'm losing many but I'm f**k**g close to these guys. I'm not challenging bums here. Doug Allen - American who competed at MGC this year. It is set for Arm Wars Las Vegas later this year. I'm the underdog here as well, ask most anyone. Neil Pickup called me to ask me about this match, he knows I'm the underdog but knows how I love to push and challenge myself. Some other challenges I've issued went to Earl Wilson and Crazy George. Both of which turned me down. They have their own reasons and I'm not going to speculate, my only point is that I'm the HUGE underdog in both of these and most would not even give me 1% chance to win even one match. However once again I enjoy training scared. It's very easy to be diligent in your efforts if you know the other only option is embarrassment or injury. Footnote : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReconnaissanceI apologize if I came off as disrespectful John. I do have nothing but respect for you man...and yes I am aware of the many challenges you've undertaken in the past, and I wont be nearly as accomplished as you for a very long time...that is not my intention here...I simply stated something I believe that Dan is very hard to beat at his weight class right now and it upsets me that people still call him green, that's all....some people just pick it up really fast...I wish I could pick it up that fast, but I'm not as intelligent as a lot of you guys so you may need to speak slower and repeat yourself a few times lol |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2012 3:01:55 GMT -5
But that is what we have been trying to tell you Bilal. HE IS GREEN!! He is new, (one year), it will take him 5-10 years to get to the NEXT level. Its just the way it goes. Most of the elite you see have been pulling much longer than you realize. You just dont hear of them as soon. Dan is strong in alot of the areas that most are trying to attain, but has sooooooooo much to learn in the areas of technique, training, reconnaissance, peaking, so on that he will be a while to hit full stride, he just started out with more than most.
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