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Post by Eric Roussin on Jan 21, 2012 23:56:38 GMT -5
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Post by Hugh Brodie on Jan 22, 2012 1:20:07 GMT -5
Nice! Is there a reason the difference in place prizes is so small? What incentive is there for someone with (e.g.) a sore arm to continue - e.g. lay down and win a prize, or stay in and risk injury etc. to try to win only $5 or $10 more at a slightly higher placing?
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Reward the pullers who make it to the top few: $500,300,200,175,150,125,100 - maybe at that point have $5 intervals - with some consecutive positions having the same prizes. Just distribute the same amount of cash differently.
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Post by John Milne on Jan 22, 2012 8:00:02 GMT -5
Nice! Is there a reason the difference in place prizes is so small? What incentive is there for someone with (e.g.) a sore arm to continue - e.g. lay down and win a prize, or stay in and risk injury etc. to try to win only $5 or $10 more at a slightly higher placing? Glory Mr. Brodie... Glory |
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Post by John Milne on Jan 22, 2012 8:01:34 GMT -5
Plus, I'm going to assume that this event gives opportunities for pullers who have never won money before to finally cash in. Even if it is a small amount it's nice to be able to say that you've won something.
I like it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2012 11:12:59 GMT -5
No one was talking to you Hugh.  . I love the format. The $$ being spread so evenly might deter some elite pro guys but will hopefully attract more volume. |
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Post by Marc Vachon on Jan 22, 2012 15:41:58 GMT -5
Sweet Jebus. This is going to be INSANE!!! Awesome stuff Eric!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2012 18:58:39 GMT -5
For anyone who has not competed in this type of event. Every round is structured by weight. So if ur in the "C" bracket (2 losses) you will pull the man closest to ur weight. Despite being an open class, being light is necessarily a disadvantage.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2012 20:14:36 GMT -5
Depends on who shows and what your weight is, I was around 215 at the round robing and I dont think I pulled anyone lighter than me. Luck of the draw I guess. I think it depends on the makeup of the group and numbers.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2012 20:36:15 GMT -5
Yes exactly.
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Post by Eric Roussin on Jan 22, 2012 22:12:48 GMT -5
Hugh - I crunched the numbers a lot of different ways, and what it comes down to is that if I give bigger awards to the top few, I can give much less to everyone else. I'm hoping this prize structure will help encourage a strong turnout. I like the prize intervals, even if they are only $5 increments. I like how every win/bye equals more potential cash. I think this is more motivating than if five spots offer the same prize.
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Post by Eric Roussin on Jan 22, 2012 22:34:03 GMT -5
A few extra details regarding this event:
Every round, all pullers will be lined up by weight (heaviest to lightest). Pullers will be matched up with other pullers of similar weight, who have the same number of losses. If the pullers have faced each other in a previous round, they will pull different opponents who are the next closest in weight. I will do whatever I can to ensure pullers receive no more than a single bye during the tournament, and that as much as possible, pullers will not go against pullers they've already faced. However, due to the quintuple elimination format, there are bound to be some rematches, and it's even possible that some pullers will receive two byes. This occurrence is only likely if the number of entries is very high.
In this format, lighter competitive pullers have the potential to finish ahead of heavier pullers, as the heavier pullers pull first each round, and there's a possibility that they may brun themselves out.
We'll be running three tables at the same time.
We'll be using a computer system to run the event. Thank you Phillip Tanner for putting this together! The system isn't fully automated, but it definitely speeds things up. The complexity of the brackets was what slowed down the Quebec Enduro Open (I helped out with the scorekeeping at that event, and it was a lot of work).
Although the event is billed as a quintuple elimination event, playoffs will be run slightly differently. Once we have five pullers left, there will be one puller with no losses (Puller A) , one with one loss (Puller B), one with two losses (Puller C), one with three losses (Puller D), and one with four losses (Puller E). Puller E will first face off against Puller D. If Puller D wins, Puller E is eliminated. If Puller E wins, then they pull again, to determine who goes on. Regardless who wins, the winner goes on to pull Puller C. Once again, if Puller C wins, then the other puller (Puller D or E) is eliminated, even if he does not yet have five losses. Basically, the lower bracket puller only has one shot to beat the higher bracket puller, while the higher bracket puller always has two chances. This will help speed up the end, and is still relatively fair.
To provide an idea, I ran a simulation with 57 pullers. In this format, some pullers pulled 20 times.
If anyone has any specific questions about the event format, please let me know.
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Post by Eric Roussin on Jan 25, 2012 0:02:06 GMT -5
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Post by Marc Vachon on Jan 25, 2012 9:14:05 GMT -5
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. I love the format. The $$ being spread so evenly might deter some elite pro guys but will hopefully attract more volume. 