Post by Jason Manjin on Jul 15, 2012 21:07:13 GMT -5
Watching the provincials footage got me thinking about this call and I saw one match in particular that I totally disagree with. I am definitely biased on this because I have been there many times but it has also made me very aware of it as well and different things leading up to it. In this example, if you fail an attempt at a hook and you can clearly see that the guy with hand control is clearly attacking ONLY the fingers and you simply cannot hang on to his whole hand with just your fingers, for starters, why is that a foul?The guy on defense in alot of those cases is the only one hanging on before the slip. Worse than that, in this match I am referring to, the guy rolled his hand and in that position takes a re grip OR 2 in this case to gain more leverage on just his fingers again!How the f4ck can you expect him to hang on?
He let go first to gain an advantage!!!! It can be a tough call sometimes but I think if the offensive guy re grips (climbs or lets go and re grips)(which means the defensive guy was hanging on at that point for sure) from that position, if there is a slip ANYWHERE it should be straps. Thoughts on this would be good. Top rollers I am sure don't mind those calls at all. You guys suck 
Rules:
For "causing a slip-out" in one of the following manners:
1) You lift your fingers off your opponent's hand prior to a slippage.
2) You close your fingers as to make a fist inside your opponent's hand.
3) You are in break wrist position and you pull your fingers inside your opponent's hand, therefore you are unable to hold the grip.
4) Straps will be used when any match ends by way of a slip-out not resulting in a foul. A slip-out occurs when both competitors have lost complete contact with one another. The official must be certain of the circumstances preceding the actual slip-out before delivering a foul. If the official is uncertain as to who caused the slippage or it was caused by the actions of both competitors then straps will be used and no foul will be given.
When the straps are employed the officials will make competitors place their elbows in the back of the elbow pad and keep their hands open. The other hand must keep hold of the peg at the side. Only the officials can adjust the straps. Competitors may ask the officials to loosen, tighten, or more the strap as to stop it from pinching the hand. The strap however cannot be more than 1 inch below the wrist line.
If a slip-out occurs, for any reason while competitors are "strapped-up" the competitors will be restrapped with no warnings or fouls being issued.
He let go first to gain an advantage!!!! It can be a tough call sometimes but I think if the offensive guy re grips (climbs or lets go and re grips)(which means the defensive guy was hanging on at that point for sure) from that position, if there is a slip ANYWHERE it should be straps. Thoughts on this would be good. Top rollers I am sure don't mind those calls at all. You guys suck 
Rules:
For "causing a slip-out" in one of the following manners:
1) You lift your fingers off your opponent's hand prior to a slippage.
2) You close your fingers as to make a fist inside your opponent's hand.
3) You are in break wrist position and you pull your fingers inside your opponent's hand, therefore you are unable to hold the grip.
4) Straps will be used when any match ends by way of a slip-out not resulting in a foul. A slip-out occurs when both competitors have lost complete contact with one another. The official must be certain of the circumstances preceding the actual slip-out before delivering a foul. If the official is uncertain as to who caused the slippage or it was caused by the actions of both competitors then straps will be used and no foul will be given.
When the straps are employed the officials will make competitors place their elbows in the back of the elbow pad and keep their hands open. The other hand must keep hold of the peg at the side. Only the officials can adjust the straps. Competitors may ask the officials to loosen, tighten, or more the strap as to stop it from pinching the hand. The strap however cannot be more than 1 inch below the wrist line.
If a slip-out occurs, for any reason while competitors are "strapped-up" the competitors will be restrapped with no warnings or fouls being issued.