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Post by Bilal Kreidieh on Jan 17, 2011 23:17:47 GMT -5
How much time should I take off from pulling and heavy lifting before a tournament?
I will compete in my first tournament on January 29th and I'm not sure when I should stop lifting hardcore.
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Post by John Milne on Jan 18, 2011 0:39:05 GMT -5
This will end up being a personal experiment Bilal. Everyone is different in this regard. Sometimes even I'm different each time depending on many things.
Are you healthy (ex. no injuries or soreness)?
Are you peaking for this event? Or is it just a reg tourney?
How much table time you've done leading up to this?
Are you on a strength building phase of your workouts or overall fitness?
There are even too many to list. My advice would be to take more than needed. I'd say to show up very healthy and without soreness. In short, I'd take 10-14 days off from any pulling and in my last week leading up to a tournament I do not do any max lifts but rather maintenance in the gym.
My last week of gym time might include some bench, squat and shoulders. I may do arms but no arm work over a 20 lb dumbell, just light and easy.
This is something you will have to experiment with. I'd keep a journal if I were you.
Realistically you are not going to get 1% stronger in the last 2 weeks. You might as well get healthy and ready to be at your best.
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Post by Jeff King on Jan 18, 2011 11:15:15 GMT -5
No arms or grip training the week of a tournament and nothing atall after the Wednesday of tournament week. You're not going to get any stronger training the week of a tournament.
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Post by Bilal Kreidieh on Jan 18, 2011 18:23:39 GMT -5
This will end up being a personal experiment Bilal. Everyone is different in this regard. Sometimes even I'm different each time depending on many things. Are you healthy (ex. no injuries or soreness)? Are you peaking for this event? Or is it just a reg tourney? How much table time you've done leading up to this? Are you on a strength building phase of your workouts or overall fitness? There are even too many to list. My advice would be to take more than needed. I'd say to show up very healthy and without soreness. In short, I'd take 10-14 days off from any pulling and in my last week leading up to a tournament I do not do any max lifts but rather maintenance in the gym. My last week of gym time might include some bench, squat and shoulders. I may do arms but no arm work over a 20 lb dumbell, just light and easy. This is something you will have to experiment with. I'd keep a journal if I were you. Realistically you are not going to get 1% stronger in the last 2 weeks. You might as well get healthy and ready to be at your best. I think the psychological advantage you get by having a few strong workouts the week leading to the tournament is more than 1%, but I get what you're saying...1 week will not make a diff. I will start taking it easy one week before the tourny and this tournament will teach me if I need to take more time off next time around. |
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Post by Bilal Kreidieh on Jan 18, 2011 18:24:00 GMT -5
No arms or grip training the week of a tournament and nothing atall after the Wednesday of tournament week. You're not going to get any stronger training the week of a tournament. I guess we're going to have a light practice this saturday then? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2011 20:41:14 GMT -5
The general consensus amoung experienced pullers is 2 weeks completely off. The reason behind is tendons and ligaments need 2 weeks to fully heal any inflmation. As for muscles, 2 weeks to asure full recovery in order to react quick and fire fast.
However as for beginners, they usually pull through their muscles not ligaments. Therefor little need for 2 weeks off. As for u Bilal, ur muscles are constantly used to being trained and they rarely feel soft. You DO NOT want that soft, fully recovered feeling going into Guy's event. It's more important that u mentally feel strong and solid. My advice, workout up to Wednesday but nothing heavy or bicept related. The difference between u winning the novice class or losing will not come down to recovery time 2 weeks prior. Unless u heavily overtrain. With ur foundation of weightlifting, the smart money says u ll win easy.
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Post by Bilal Kreidieh on Jan 18, 2011 22:17:43 GMT -5
The general consensus amoung experienced pullers is 2 weeks completely off. The reason behind is tendons and ligaments need 2 weeks to fully heal any inflmation. As for muscles, 2 weeks to asure full recovery in order to react quick and fire fast. However as for beginners, they usually pull through their muscles not ligaments. Therefor little need for 2 weeks off. As for u Bilal, ur muscles are constantly used to being trained and they rarely feel soft. You DO NOT want that soft, fully recovered feeling going into Guy's event. It's more important that u mentally feel strong and solid. My advice, workout up to Wednesday but nothing heavy or bicept related. The difference between u winning the novice class or losing will not come down to recovery time 2 weeks prior. Unless u heavily overtrain. With ur foundation of weightlifting, the smart money says u ll win easy. That post was actually encouraging and motivating - thanks dude. |
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Post by Rick Heidebrecht on Jan 18, 2011 22:28:43 GMT -5
If you take two weeks off for a tournament, plus a week after to recover, and you hit four tournaments a year, that's nearly three months out of the year that you're not training at all. If that's what you need, by all means, but don't forget to consider the big picture...
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Post by Bilal Kreidieh on Jan 19, 2011 8:04:38 GMT -5
If you take two weeks off for a tournament, plus a week after to recover, and you hit four tournaments a year, that's nearly three months out of the year that you're not training at all. If that's what you need, by all means, but don't forget to consider the big picture... d**n, that's true. I didn't think about it that way. One week off pulling and 2-3 days off the gym is all I will take this time. We will see how it goes and go from there. |
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Post by John Milne on Jan 19, 2011 10:33:01 GMT -5
Like I said.. there are a thousand answers to this one.
You'll figure it out Bilal... it will just take some time.
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Post by Dave McEwen on Jan 19, 2011 12:00:01 GMT -5
It's not hype about tendon strength , if there not tough and enflamed all the mussle you build means nothing , I have seen many weight lifters and body builders over the years just get killed because because of poor tendion strength , any Dr,. thinks were nuts to subject them to such abuse , In London we would always have an intense but short practice the week before a big tournement , a small one 3to 4 days before .
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Post by Bilal Kreidieh on Jan 19, 2011 14:18:53 GMT -5
It's not hype about tendon strength , if there not tough and enflamed all the mussle you build means nothing , I have seen many weight lifters and body builders over the years just get killed because because of poor tendion strength , any Dr,. thinks were nuts to subject them to such abuse , In London we would always have an intense but short practice the week before a big tournement , a small one 3to 4 days before . What do you feel is the best way to train tendons and get them stronger, other than pulling offcourse? |
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Post by Eric Roussin on Jan 19, 2011 14:24:21 GMT -5
I'm a big believer in isometrics for building tendon strength.
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Post by Bilal Kreidieh on Jan 19, 2011 15:51:26 GMT -5
I'm a big believer in isometrics for building tendon strength. I actually started doing static holds with dumbells and cables once a week. |
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Post by Dave McEwen on Jan 19, 2011 16:44:24 GMT -5
Years ago Mark Zalepa and crazy goerge would come to my farm to throw hay pick rocks and we would split wood , all extreme heavy work , all that kind of work mimiced table time , and everybody got good , and the stats over time have proven it , were just old now and can't take as much punishment but still train the same way . I used to split several cords of wood to practice my hit 3 days before a tourney . It really helped the intensity , George was a finatic and I found over training was a problem , as hay went we would throw 6 loads in 3 hours usally in extrene heat , 180 times 50+ lb. bales as far as one could throw times 6 loads = 54000 lbs and that kind of stuff is way better then free weights or pullyes , every one hated it , but ask them how it helped , It's one of the reasons george is refered to as an iron man .
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