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Post by Hugh Brodie on May 30, 2011 22:14:45 GMT -5
Traditionally - in other sports - a "rookie" is defined as someone in their first full year in the sport/league. That allows some leeway up to almost two years of activity. Why should armwrestling be any different? Using these rules, there are suitable candidates. For pullers in the sport longer than that short period of time, they could be considered for the "most improved" award.
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Post by Eric Roussin on May 30, 2011 22:29:50 GMT -5
I agree that this should be the norm. With the current number of active pullers in Ontario there are more than enough to choose from. However, armwrestling is not like some other sports. For example, if a puller competed once in 2008, once in 2009, and five times in 2011, should he be considered a rookie? Not all pullers maintain the same level of activity, and it can be hard to determine when they really got into the sport. For example, I recently discovered that Bill Cameron competed in a couple of events in 2003 when he was much lighter. He then came back and became very active during the 2009-2010 season and was the 2010 Rookie of the Year. Should he not have been considered?
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Post by Hugh Brodie on May 30, 2011 23:11:49 GMT -5
If we were using the NHL definitions of "rookie" given below (with some modifications - e.g. "25" and "6" would be different for AW) - yes - these two would qualify as rookies.
"To be considered a rookie, a player must not have played in more than 25 NHL games in any preceding seasons, nor in six or more NHL games in each of any two preceding seasons."
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2011 4:29:50 GMT -5
But when you think of it from a different angle, by the time they make it to the NHL or PRO league, are they rookies?? Or just PRO rookies. They have been playing hockey all their life at that point.
I just want to armwrestle.
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Post by Jason Manjin on May 31, 2011 7:09:02 GMT -5
John , how did you know Chuck and I are tight? Chuck always told me, "Jason, you wear Superman pajamas, Superman wears Chuck Norris pajamas"!
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Post by Fayez Moutassem on May 31, 2011 8:20:59 GMT -5
I agree that this should be the norm. With the current number of active pullers in Ontario there are more than enough to choose from. However, armwrestling is not like some other sports. For example, if a puller competed once in 2008, once in 2009, and five times in 2011, should he be considered a rookie? Not all pullers maintain the same level of activity, and it can be hard to determine when they really got into the sport. For example, I recently discovered that Bill Cameron competed in a couple of events in 2003 when he was much lighter. He then came back and became very active during the 2009-2010 season and was the 2010 Rookie of the Year. Should he not have been considered? I agree with you Eric. The level of activity should also be considered but then is the level of activity defined by how many tournaments the guy is attending? or if he is training regularly with his team? This may become a bit difficult to keep track of. for example, my first tournament was the arm melter in june 2009. I had zero pulling practice before that and i still attended another 2 tournaments before june 2010 though i knew nothing of techniques. Not until june 2010 did I find a team and started practicing on the table and learning how to use my body weight etc. am i considered active from june 2010 or june 2009? Some arm-wrestlers might be practicing regularly but decide not to compete until they feel they are ready to dominate the division or place in the top 3 at most tournaments. are these considered as active pullers or not? |
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Post by Bilal Kreidieh on May 31, 2011 8:55:01 GMT -5
Traditionally - in other sports - a "rookie" is defined as someone in their first full year in the sport/league. That allows some leeway up to almost two years of activity. Why should armwrestling be any different? Using these rules, there are suitable candidates. For pullers in the sport longer than that short period of time, they could be considered for the "most improved" award. I agree with this 100% |
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Post by Bilal Kreidieh on May 31, 2011 8:55:36 GMT -5
I agree that this should be the norm. With the current number of active pullers in Ontario there are more than enough to choose from. However, armwrestling is not like some other sports. For example, if a puller competed once in 2008, once in 2009, and five times in 2011, should he be considered a rookie? Not all pullers maintain the same level of activity, and it can be hard to determine when they really got into the sport. For example, I recently discovered that Bill Cameron competed in a couple of events in 2003 when he was much lighter. He then came back and became very active during the 2009-2010 season and was the 2010 Rookie of the Year. Should he not have been considered? Bill is one of these guys that should be considered for every award out there. He's a beast. |
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Post by Eric Roussin on Jun 20, 2011 12:57:02 GMT -5
Now that the final tournament of the 2010-2011 season prior to Provincials has come and passed, I'm wondering if anyone has any other nominations for the OAA annual awards.
I will be bringing voting ballots to Provincials which will include the top 4 or 5 names that seem to have the most support in the various categories, and then all OAA members in attendance will have a chance to vote.
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Post by Jay Riehle on Jun 21, 2011 0:08:35 GMT -5
Promo of the Year- Joe Gould (Taken Arm Melter Series to the EXTREME!!!!!!) Rook of the Year- Tyler Robinson (nuff said) Most Improved- Janet Riehle (Nearly flawless year of pulling, started pulling mens 155'sthis year, I know she's my wife but really who else do you know that goes around lifting tractor tires off the ground!!!!! except maybe crazy george. lol Murray Park- Al Aubin (Al has spawned enough armwrestlers in this sport to create 3 very successful armwrestling teams and doesn't seem to be stopping anytime soon with new additions every couple of months. Al's devotion to the sport of armwrestling on & off the scene is unmeasurable and that is why he has my vote) I stand by my nominations. |
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