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Post by John Milne on Oct 31, 2010 12:09:55 GMT -5
Well at least the board has some excitement again.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2010 12:16:33 GMT -5
Lol are u serious rob? The Mike Gould Classic is the only money event in Ontario. Just because The Armmelter or Mark's events offer 1 round robin or exclusive class DOES NOT make them cash events. They are still amateur events that give trophies to their main classes. HOW POSSIBLY can offering up one unique money class BEFORE the classes start take away from the popularity or authenticity of the event? And suggesting "to scrap all circuit events" cuz the executive adds a small unique cash element to the event is small minded, selfish and extemely short sighted.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2010 13:24:06 GMT -5
... And rob the Enduro event had 55 pullers (only one arm) which actually works out to 110 entries plus compared to other events. And that's Bigger than most Ontario events. Not bad considering the Enduro was Not tailored to the career amateur puller like urself.
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Post by Mikel Gould on Oct 31, 2010 13:42:16 GMT -5
JMO. but i would like to see anything possible to just promote the growth of the sport. Its still the same competitors but it would be nice to have big cash, big trophies, big stages lights and television. I would open tournies up to all regions and eliminate boundries. Every tourny open to the world 50 grand cash and espn. This would bring corporate sponsorship, bring the recognition we deserve and eventualy lead to the olympic dream. Very nice but not likely anytime soon so how about Park Place in the spring for a couple hundred and dim lights. LOL.
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Post by John Milne on Oct 31, 2010 16:51:09 GMT -5
I have to agree with Mike and Chris. Improve the sport, don't hinder it. Close the provincials, open everything else. The more money the promoter makes, the more events and extra's he's gonna throw in.. that's just better overall in my book.
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Post by Chris Macpherson on Oct 31, 2010 23:26:40 GMT -5
I appologize chris. I hadn't reallized that being a "poor to mediocre puller" made our opinions meaningless. I know I'll never be a provincial champ, I honestly don't have to time to commit to train hard enough to reach that level. I pull because I enjoy it win or lose, I assure you my ego has nothing to do with my opinion. My comment was based on experience in numerous other competitive sports, in all of which ontario tournaments were restricted to residence of ontario. As was the case in all other provinces. I realize armwrestling is its own sport and every event is run at the discretion of the promoter. Its just something I've grown accustomed to. in the interest of avoiding future conflict I'll just keep my mouth shut until I can capture a national title
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2010 1:50:35 GMT -5
Don't even try to mis-quote me or put words in my mouth to attempt to defend your claims. I never said your opinion is meaningless because your a mediocre puller. I can care less about aw status. You recommended prohibiting outside pullers because it can possibly effect the perception of your ranking!!! FACT, this IS a self-serving highly individualistic attitude. If your goal Chris was to improve... You would WANT a larger variety of competitors in order to test yourself. If Your goal Chris was for the sport of aw to grow in popularity... You would WANT to encourage outside competition. These are obviously neither high on ur priority list.... So save your weak attemps to eleviate accountability at my expense.
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Post by Eric Roussin on Nov 1, 2010 8:11:23 GMT -5
I feel armwrestling doesn’t yet have the participation numbers required to warrant many closed events. In the US, as far as I know, there isn’t a single State Championship that is closed to out of state pullers. In Ontario we are fortunate to have a strong base of active pullers which allows us to have a closed Provincial Championship with a reasonable expectation of upwards of 100 entries. However, I think it’s best to open other events to anyone who wants to compete. This increases attendance and allows pullers to gain experience from pulling a larger number of competitors.
The series of five circuit events are held in different parts of the province and have standard weight classes, entry fees, and a double elimination format. OAA members can compete in these events throughout the year and earn points for themselves, their team, and their region. I don’t think the addition of a special class with cash prizes and/or an overall detracts from the events.
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Post by Joel Goodsell on Nov 1, 2010 16:56:27 GMT -5
yep i agree that ontario events should be open to all pullers, but not provincials. and if the guy running the event wants to throw some money in it i say thats just a bonus...who dosnt like to win some cash everyonce in a wile...nothings wrong with it. all it does is bring out the people that were still on the fence about coming to the tourney and alot of times makes some pretty good entertainment
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Post by Jeff Oosterveld on Nov 1, 2010 19:43:42 GMT -5
personally i like the fact that its open to other provinces other wise we wold never see Hugh Brodie and there is nobody more dedicated to arm wrestling than Hugh bring on the meta hook
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Post by Dave McEwen on Nov 1, 2010 20:28:49 GMT -5
I 2 agree , if it is not open you don't know were you stand, if I ever get healthy i would love to pull mr gobby , still never had the chance .
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2010 20:34:51 GMT -5
Well if u don't make Kingston Dave, I ll try to go to centrals. And yes... Mr Brodie IS the man!
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Post by Jeff Slater on Nov 2, 2010 11:40:31 GMT -5
JMO. You could give the top 5 Ontario guys points even if there is outside province pullers in the top 5 finishers.
Example
1. Ontario - 5 pts 2. Quebec 3. Quebec 4. Ontario - 4 pts 5. Ontario - 3 pts 6. Ontario - 2 pts 7. Ontario - 1 pts
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Post by Eric Roussin on Nov 2, 2010 12:12:24 GMT -5
This hasn't been done in the past, but could be an acceptable compromise. What does everyone think of this idea?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2010 17:04:39 GMT -5
Sounds like a comprimise to keep the masses happy. Attaboy Jeff!!! Your up to 31 posts now!! LOL see ya in Kingston.
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