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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2011 5:45:05 GMT -5
Not to mention weeks of intense toothache in your arms. Aches that stop gym time altogether. Haha. I do know what you mean Bilal, trust me, I eat, sleep, and sometimes breath this useless sport, ask anyone around me, but reality is reality. People in this sport have heard a million time over the years our mantra. Because we are new forgive them when they say, "We will see", and "Prove it". Its not a slight, but something born of repetition.
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Post by Bilal Kreidieh on Jan 19, 2011 8:00:57 GMT -5
Not to mention weeks of intense toothache in your arms. Aches that stop gym time altogether. Haha. I do know what you mean Bilal, trust me, I eat, sleep, and sometimes breath this useless sport, ask anyone around me, but reality is reality. People in this sport have heard a million time over the years our mantra. Because we are new forgive them when they say, "We will see", and "Prove it". Its not a slight, but something born of repetition. Ask Fayez. The first 2-3 times I pulled, it took me 4-5 days yo hit the gym after it. Nowadays, I pull on Saturday and I hit the gym for a light workout on Monday and start going heavy again on Tuesday...recovery is getting much better. I'm not sure what it mean to pull with your tendons via pulling with your muscles...I think that's just arm wrestling hype tbh. The arm pulls as one entity and both your muscles and tendons are involved everytime.
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Post by Bilal Kreidieh on Jan 19, 2011 8:02:50 GMT -5
I started in this sport with 15 years of weight lifting under my belt. And I agree with u Bilal, it's a great foundation to work with. But in order to be great in this sport ur training will need to evolve (as I'm sure it will). And the most important thing.... Can u and ur ego take serious ass kickings and periods of self doubt?? This is inevitable to all who trek through this path. Dispite the variables... You without a doubt are starting with advantages. I don't mind losing to people who are stronger than me, but I would hate losing to people who are just "faster" or have better technique. That would suck but I know it will happen. Such is life. You have to understand losing to enjoy winning.
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Post by John Milne on Jan 19, 2011 10:41:08 GMT -5
It's nice to have some excitement on this board again. I'm glad you're around Bilal, your enthusiasm is great and makes things fun. It will be interesting to see how you end up.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2011 12:22:31 GMT -5
Not to mention weeks of intense toothache in your arms. Aches that stop gym time altogether. Haha. I do know what you mean Bilal, trust me, I eat, sleep, and sometimes breath this useless sport, ask anyone around me, but reality is reality. People in this sport have heard a million time over the years our mantra. Because we are new forgive them when they say, "We will see", and "Prove it". Its not a slight, but something born of repetition. Ask Fayez. The first 2-3 times I pulled, it took me 4-5 days yo hit the gym after it. Nowadays, I pull on Saturday and I hit the gym for a light workout on Monday and start going heavy again on Tuesday...recovery is getting much better. I'm not sure what it mean to pull with your tendons via pulling with your muscles...I think that's just arm wrestling hype tbh. The arm pulls as one entity and both your muscles and tendons are involved everytime. Once you pull an actual tournament, not a novice event, then we will talk. No hype.
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Post by Bilal Kreidieh on Jan 19, 2011 14:14:41 GMT -5
It's nice to have some excitement on this board again. I'm glad you're around Bilal, your enthusiasm is great and makes things fun. It will be interesting to see how you end up. Thanks John. I just say and speak what I feel. Nothing hidden here. What you see is what you get. Some people don't like that. I'm just an honest guy who says what's on my mind.
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Post by Bilal Kreidieh on Jan 19, 2011 14:16:40 GMT -5
Ask Fayez. The first 2-3 times I pulled, it took me 4-5 days yo hit the gym after it. Nowadays, I pull on Saturday and I hit the gym for a light workout on Monday and start going heavy again on Tuesday...recovery is getting much better. I'm not sure what it mean to pull with your tendons via pulling with your muscles...I think that's just arm wrestling hype tbh. The arm pulls as one entity and both your muscles and tendons are involved everytime. Once you pull an actual tournament, not a novice event, then we will talk. No hype. Guy, not taking anything from you, but physiologically speaking and if you look at the way the body moves and the elbows/wrist/forearms move in arm wrestling, there is no way to pull with your muscles without your tendons being involved....hence the whole pulling with your muscles and not your tendons is just something experienced pullers tell someone who is new to the sport to show them that they don't really know how to use their tendons to their benefit, which I agree with. I'm merely talking about the mechanics of the arm and how it moves.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2011 17:26:38 GMT -5
Once you pull an actual tournament, not a novice event, then we will talk. No hype. Guy, not taking anything from you, but physiologically speaking and if you look at the way the body moves and the elbows/wrist/forearms move in arm wrestling, there is no way to pull with your muscles without your tendons being involved....hence the whole pulling with your muscles and not your tendons is just something experienced pullers tell someone who is new to the sport to show them that they don't really know how to use their tendons to their benefit, which I agree with. I'm merely talking about the mechanics of the arm and how it moves. OK
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Post by John Milne on Jan 19, 2011 17:29:12 GMT -5
~ Well said Guy
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Post by Allen The Hitman Ford on Jan 19, 2011 18:37:55 GMT -5
Lol....I was just joking, I do believe that gym time would be helpful. But I still think Table time is wear it's at. I have made way more improvements at he practice table both with strength and technique that I ever did in my gym days. I have beaten many of the big muscular type guys with ease. They think they can armwrestle just because they are big and strong in the gym. They are so surprised when little old me smashes them. And the crowd goes wild!! As well I have noticed that these type of guys don't stay with the sport for long because of the pain involved because this effects their gym time. No offense Bilal maybe your one of the few body builder types that will do well with armwrestling. This is just what I have seen over the years.
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Post by Bilal Kreidieh on Jan 19, 2011 18:56:31 GMT -5
Lol....I was just joking, I do believe that gym time would be helpful. But I still think Table time is wear it's at. I have made way more improvements at he practice table both with strength and technique that I ever did in my gym days. I have beaten many of the big muscular type guys with ease. They think they can armwrestle just because they are big and strong in the gym. They are so surprised when little old me smashes them. And the crowd goes wild!! As well I have noticed that these type of guys don't stay with the sport for long because of the pain involved because this effects their gym time. No offense Bilal maybe your one of the few body builder types that will do well with armwrestling. This is just what I have seen over the years. I actually agree with what you're saying. I've been arm wrestling for a few months and I remember the first 2 practices that I had. I thought to myself if I'm going to be out of the gym for 4-5 days every time I arm wrestle, is this worth it for me? I learned however that arm wrestlers are probably the strongest people in the world and if I have to be the strongest mofo around, I have to become an arm wrestler.....so now I'm more passionate about pulling than I am about lifting weights.
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Post by Nik Straub on Jan 19, 2011 20:36:23 GMT -5
Hi Bilal, I think what Guy is trying to say is that currently, because you are a newbie armwrestler, your muscles are much stronger than your tendons. Another aspect people often overlook is the torque that the humerus is put under when armwrestling. The humerus bone is the most vulnerable in the first year of armwrestling.
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Post by John Milne on Jan 20, 2011 2:24:53 GMT -5
Al.. the guys who beat you "with ease" are... guys who lift weights
Tamblyn Rau Babayev Rakers The Quebec Hercules ;D Roussin Milne Larratt Perron
just to name a few
I don't know why you fight it.. I think it's because you don't have it in you to commit yourself to it. There is NO question though - lifting heavy things WILL MAKE YOU A BETTER ARMWRESTLER!!!! There is NO valid argument against that point.
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Post by Bilal Kreidieh on Jan 20, 2011 7:35:48 GMT -5
Al.. the guys who beat you "with ease" are... guys who lift weights
Tamblyn Rau Babayev Rakers The Quebec Hercules ;D Roussin Milne Larratt Perron just to name a few I don't know why you fight it.. I think it's because you don't have it in you to commit yourself to it. There is NO question though - lifting heavy things WILL MAKE YOU A BETTER ARMWRESTLER!!!! There is NO valid argument against that point. Lifting heavy weights will make you a better everything.
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Post by Allen The Hitman Ford on Jan 20, 2011 9:39:54 GMT -5
I am not fighting it! I was agreeing with you guys. All I was saying is that I have had great success without any gym time. I am willing to give it a try and commit myself to it. Because if it has as much of an effect on my power as you say then look out mofoes cause The Hitman will be unstoppable!!!
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